mik82 (User)
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Chinese machines? 5 Years, 2 Months ago
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After a little search on the internet i found out that any cnc machine that is produced in China is a lot cheaper than one with about the same features that is produced in Europe or America. What is the catch?? Are Chinese machines reliable?
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Re:Chinese machines? 5 Years, 2 Months ago
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Mass production is the answer, ive seen it. a circle of cnc machines with a robotic arm in the middle integrated in the program cycle. rough casting or steel conveyed to first machine, arm positions it into chuck position, retracts, door closes and cycle starts, cycle ends, door opens arm removes part and positions to next machine for next operation and so on and so on until part is finished machined. Assembly also done with semi robotic integration.
To make a long story short, very low cost of human error and labour, resulting in mass production at half the cost of eurpean countries having to pay for operators, setters, programmers, fetlers and assembly fitters.
Hate to admit it even after ive seen it, but chinese are way way ahead of the rest in manufacturing costs in the engineering process.
There is a company here that runs this kind of fully automated process and alot of people are unhappy and jobless from it. But the consumer is happy at paying half the price.
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Re:Chinese machines? 5 Years, 2 Months ago
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What about reliability? Is that right that you get what you pay? It would be very disappointing to experience major malfunctions from the start just because you saved some money.
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Re:Chinese machines? 5 Years, 2 Months ago
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I have seen it both ways coming from China. Machines made with cheap labor with old machines and tooling. Usually what they produce is cheap, lots of backlash and looks rough. But inexpensive.
The newer trend seems to be the totally automated manufacturing floor. This setup produces far better machines that are superior at times.
It seems China has had a philosophy change happening internally in their manufacturing technology.
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mik82 (User)
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Re:Chinese machines? 5 Years, 2 Months ago
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Yes Ivan i believe you are wright!
A friend of mine recently bought a tool for his photograph machine which was half priced than the European one and was very pleased. A guy from China came here in Greece and installed it without extra cost!!
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Re:Chinese machines? 5 Years, 1 Month ago
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Here in america the Unions have a fit everytime a automated system goes in. but the reality of it is now all the big companies have left and gone over seas to get there work done so much for unions. we could make much of it here but then thers the unions and the mmm what lawyers , mmm what do they know about CNC units? we have EPA they have mmm well nothing, we have consumer protection -they have mmm nata we have OSHA they have mm nata again, so see there not much regulation in china , WE"ER over regulated to the point we put companies out of busness here in america. go figure
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